Jealous Much?

August 31, 2009

I’ve been asked more than once how a poly relationship works; how do the people in the poly relationship not get jealous?  The answer is easy – we do get jealous.

Jealousy is a set of emotions that are based in our insecurities.  Our insecurities play a part in how jealousy manifests itself.  For example, we may see our partner talking and laughing with a member of the opposite sex and immediately feel anger.  Anger at our partner for engaging in the behavior or anger at the other person for crossing an imaginary line with someone obviously in a relationship.  We might think, what is my partner doing flirting so openly with that person? Or we may think of the other person, Have they no shame then to come on to a taken person?

Or maybe we feel fear creeping up on us as we watch our partner continue to talk with the other person and we might think, why does my partner need to talk to that person?  What am I not doing/providing that my partner needs to seek it out in another person? Fear may continue to taunts us with thoughts like, Are they going to leave me for this other person?

Sometimes jealousy can manifest in the form of envy – why does my partner feel free to speak to others when I never behave like that?

But what we don’t know is that jealousy usually isn’t about our partners but rather about our own deep-seated insecurities developed over the course of our lives.  We aren’t taught how to deal with jealousy but rather how  taught to avoid it. Some people simply refuse to acknowledge jealousy.  Others choose the blame game path “my partner makes me jealous.”  But dealing with it directly is not generally an option.

Dealing directly with jealousy requires one to confront their own demons.  Jealousy is generally not the real problem, but rather a symptom of the problem.  Most of the time the problem is internal.  Most of the time jealousy is allowed to manifest and grow because we are in denial.  Internally we are refusing to acknowledge a hurt or fear that is exacerbated by our partner’s actions.  Actions which we choose to interpret in a negative light even when we don’t have the full story.

In the example above I stated we saw our partner talking to someone of the opposite sex.  A simple conversation of which we are not in close enough range to hear what is being said.  And yet, at times our minds may take a leap to thinking our partner is crossing that boundary, or the unknown person is crossing that boundary, when really we haven’t seen anything that would prove or disprove that thought.  It’s our own internal insecurities showing us proof of what we fear about ourselves.

I can’t tell  you exactly what that fear is because it’s different for everybody and is generally tied into an old hurt from our past – our childhood, our teen years, our twenties… from any time in the past. But it’s there, waiting to remind you exactly why its true.  Even if we know intellectually we are not what our fears say, even if we know we deserve all that life has to offer,  sometimes our insecurities feed that little doubt we all have inside.

When it comes to loving relationships, society (and our parents, and our friends, etc) teaches us that we must protect what we have to avoid jealousy.  We must find our perfect mate, forsake all others, and til death do us part never let someone else have what we have found.  Society teaches us that jealousy is the problem, and to stop the problem, we must never put ourselves in the way of the problem.

We are taught to avoid jealousy instead of looking at jealousy as a tool.  Because most of the time, jealousy isn’t the problem but actually a symptom of the problem.  But we’ve crafted the ability to avoid addressing the symptom and therefore rarely see the problem until its too late.

Sometimes jealousy is showing you that there is a problem in your relationship.  If your partner isn’t being honest with you or is deliberately misleading you, then jealousy is founded.  It’s your internal warning system telling you something isn’t right and your head and heart aren’t listening to the warning signals.

Sometimes jealousy is showing you that you aren’t addressing an internal hurt.  If your partner isn’t doing anything wrong and yet you can’t shake unreasonable jealousy about actions you perceive as threatening, then you aren’t looking inside yourself – you aren’t being honest with yourself.  And this can be damaging to your partner and to your relationship with them.

Polyamorous people mostly believe that jealousy in and of itself isn’t harmful.  It is our own reactions to that jealousy that prove dangerous and hurtful.  Poly people strive to acknowledge the jealousy, identify it’s trigger(s), and communicate with their partner(s) in order to work past and through it.  Jealousy isn’t considered the enemy but is used to better understand oneself and one’s relationships.

Most poly people don’t ignore the clammer of jealousy when it comes calling but they do heed the credo “own your own junk.”  Owing your own junk means acknowledging that the only person responsible for making you feel jealous, or mad, or left out, or angry, or resentful or any other emotion you might feel is you.  When you own your own junk, you look internally first to determine the validity of jealousy and then examine the external factors involved.

Owning your own junk means learning a way to communicate the findings so that you can work with your partner to fix the problem.  When the source is external, you can then face the issue and determine best what needs to be addressed with your partner(s).  If the source is internal, then you can face whatever emotion is causing the jealousy.  Either way, owning your junk means you understand yourself better and also creates better communication in your relationships.

Franklin D. Roosevelt once said, “There is nothing to fear but fear itself.”  Wise words.  Owning your own junks means you don’t have to fear the unknown since you’ve faced it head on.    The rewards from bravely facing those fears are felt in all aspects of life.


While I Was Sleeping

August 29, 2009

Actual conversation at 1am on the way home from a bar:

Me:  (searching through my purse drunkenly) Where’s the camera?

Him(soberly driving) I put it in your purse.

Me:  (as I dump the entire contents of my purse on the floor) No, you didn’t.  I just looked.

Slight pause.

Me:  We left it at the bar – great.  I will call them.

I pick up my iPhone and punch in Goog-411

Goog411:  This call is recorded.  Google!  Say the business and the city and state.

Me: (slurring and yelling into my iPhone) Frontier Club, Aurora Colorado

Goog411: (a search noise and then) Top Listing, Front Loading, Aurora Colorado. Number one…

Me: (frantic) No! Ah!

I hang up angrily and redial Goog411

Goog411:  This call is recorded.  Google!  Say the business and the city and state.

Me: (trying to go slow and speak clearly while obviously drunk) Au-ro-ra Club, Fron-tier Co-lo-ra-do… ah FUCK.

I hang up angrily again and once again redial Goog411.

Goog411:  This call is recorded.  Google!  Say the business and the city and state.

Me:  (slowly and more loudly) Frontier Club, Aurora Colorado.

Goog411:  Frontier Club, Aurora Colorado… top listing, number one, Frontier Club on Colfax Avenue…

Me: (into the iPhone) Number one.

I glance  at him and notice he is laughing his ass off at me.  I’m slightly embarrassed.

Me: (starting to giggle too) What?

Him:  That took you 10 minutes!

Me:  Stupid Google… (into the phone) Hi. We were just there and I think we left our camera at the bar.  No? Okay well let us know if you find it.  (to him) It must be in C’s back seat.

I dial our friend, C, who we were visiting with at her neighborhood bar.

Me (to C):  Hey, did we leave our camera in your backseat?  No?  Curses, it isn’t at the bar either.

Him: I may have put it in the back seat.

Me: (looking at him, incredulous) WHAT? (I glance in the back seat, then say into the phone while glaring at him) It’s in the backseat.

Me: (as I hang up) It was in the back seat the whole time!

Him:  (laughing)  Now you can go to sleep like you always do on the way home…

And here’s what happens with the camera when I finally go to sleep:

What happens on the way home from a bar at 1am

What happens on the way home from a bar at 1am


I’m Just a Girl Who Can’t Say No

August 28, 2009

I’ll let you in on a little secret about me.  See, I’m a hedonist.

No, you didn’t know that… the truth is I’ve rarely been good at recognizing the joys in delaying pleasure of any kind.  I can’t see the long road – I tend to want to deal in the here and now and not think of the future.  Many a time I’ve jumped the gun because, in the moment, I wanted what I wanted and didn’t want to face the repercussions of my actions until after I’d obtained whatever happiness I could from that moment.

For as long as I can remember, this has been true.

When I was a kid, I talked my best friend into eating an entire bag of Oreo cookies with me. It was bliss.

I got married three days after my now ex-husband proposed (while we were in bed mind you) and one month after we started dating.  I was giddy on new love.

Heck, even my foray into cheating was in the heat of the moment, when I refused to acknowledge that my actions were going to have significant and life-altering affects on my life and those I held dear just so I could satisfy a need to get-off and a need to feel wanted.  Sad, indeed.

My point is – I sometimes have a hard time saying no to myself. It’s still frustratingly true to this day.

Oh, I’ve learned from my past mistakes.  I don’t cheat and lie anymore – I found an open relationship with a man who is willing to talk through the finer points of our wants in order to achieve satisfaction in that aspect of our lives.  And rather than indulge in the married lifestyle, my partner and I found a legal way to entrust our lives into the others hands – by creating wills (that’s right – I get his money!)

But I still want to eat all the Oreos in the bag – even knowing I will feel sick afterward – both physically and emotionally.  I struggle every day fighting this urge.  It’s stressful and depressing at times, knowing I will spend my life fighting with myself over food.

It’s especially hard now because I want to eat well – I want to feel good about my control over myself – I WANT to lose weight and look great.  And yet this one facet of my personality, at times, is my undoing.

Fight the good fight, right?

(sigh) Someday, oh someday, I will succeed…


Thursday Thirteen, #56

August 20, 2009

Thirteen Things

Mon-Mon

Doesn’t Like

About Polyamory

(aka Poly Con List)

1.  You become a sexual deviant in the eyes of your family, friends, and society.  Monogamous people treat you differently, even if they say they understand.  I don’t even think its necessarily meant to happen, and yet, it does.

2. Your friends suddenly think you want to sleep with them.

3. Your friends get offended if you explain you aren’t attracted to them “in that way” and don’t want to sleep with them.

4. You have to unlearn a lot of societal conditioning – while this can be a good thing, it’s not exactly easy.  Especially when you are in crisis and need support and all you have to turn to are friends who share that societal conditioning.  It would be so much easier to just give into the conditioning.

5. Everyone thinks you will sleep with anyone – as if suddenly you don’t have any standards or morals.  Being non-monogamous is not the same thing as being immoral.  Not that I believe sleeping with a lot of people is immoral – I’m more focusing on the societal conception of sleeping with more than one person and how they tie that into their view of non-monogamous people.  Besides, many poly people I know are even more picky than some of my single, serial monogamist friends.

6. People don’t get you because you aren’t practicing a “normal” love style.  There isn’t much understanding in the world for poly people and sometimes that is downright tiring.

7. Society has an insane aversion to jealousy – which is quite prevalent in the world in general and in polyamorous relationships as well.  If you try to explain why you’re jealous to a non-poly person, their attitude is akin to “well, what did you expect?.”  Jealousy is just an emotion; just because you’re poly doesn’t mean you suddenly lose all emotion.  It just means you are willing to accept it will happen and willing to work to control jealousy instead of letting jealousy control your life.

8. Polyamory takes brutal self honesty – BRUTAL.  You can’t hide from yourself and be successful in poly.  Lying to yourself in poly will destroy your relationships – even long term marriages fail because people lied to themselves in poly.  You will give into societal programming and probably believe poly is evil instead of recognizing there isn’t any evil, you just weren’t honest with yourself.

9. You will meet a lot of people who “think” they can be poly but in practice have a hard time “being” poly.  And this can cause a lot of pain.  A lot.

10. The dating pool shrinks because few people “get” polyamory.  They think you can’t commit.  They think you are a player.  They think they can’t handle jealousy and want you all to themselves – to the possible detriment of any other existing relationships.

11. New Relationship Energy (NRE) while fun… can lead you down some crazy paths because it blinds you to possible problems with new folks and can negatively affect your existing poly relationships (but that is for another post, I think!).

12. The other alternative lifestyles out there don’t support polyamorous folks very well either.

13. You obtain a LOT of phone numbers in your travels and dating and it’s hard to manage them.  (lol)

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Today’s Happy, #10

August 19, 2009

The scale went down FINALLY!  I feel like I’m on the right path…

I’m feeling good about my workouts – feeling TONS of  energy from them and after them now.  It is the feeling I’ve been waiting for instead of getting uber tired and cranky after my workouts.  Woot!

I’m working on changing my ATTITUDE about eating right and food in general.  I’ve started this new “diet” that isn’t focusing on food but instead how you think about food and what your body needs.  It’s based on cognitive behavioral therapy – and its focus is that we control our lives by how we think about things (which is way existential, btw)… very interesting to say the least and I’m on Day 3.  So you might hear more about that in future posts (I WILL keep it up!  lol).

All in all, it’s a good day!


Here’s Winking At You, Kid

August 14, 2009

Actual conversation chatting on IM:

[09:54:37] you wrote:  i’m flirting (with someone ) a little right now
[09:55:33] you wrote:  i will now and then send him a (wink) or a flirty face ‘;)’

[10:15:23] he  wrote:  what’s the diff between a wink and a flirty face?
[10:15:28] he  wrote:  i’ve never heard of a flirty face
[10:15:29] he  wrote:  lol

[10:15:33] you wrote:  nothing, just mixing it up
[10:15:48] you wrote:  you need an imagination
[10:17:50] you wrote:  a flirty face is like this ‘;)’
[10:17:54] you wrote:  or ‘;-)’
[10:17:59] you wrote:  or ;]
[10:18:05] you wrote:  the semi colon is winking
[10:18:09] you wrote:  that’s flirty

[10:18:15] you wrote:  why am i explaining this to you?
[10:20:19] he  wrote:  well i know what a wink is…which is what you are describing…  but you said you were sending him a wink OR a flirty face.  so i thought they were different

[10:20:33] you wrote:  sigh its exhausting talking to you if i don’t say it precisely as you expect it to be said
[10:21:08] you wrote:  and then you ask questions, and if I explain my thought process
[10:21:15] you wrote:  then you explain why I confuse you

[10:21:50] he  wrote:  all i can say to that is :-%
[10:22:01] you wrote:  i just wanted to share that I was attempting to flirt
[10:22:06] he  wrote:  lol
[10:22:53] you wrote:  i sent the following to him first just like this:  (wink)
[10:23:05] you wrote:  and then I sent ‘;)-’

[10:24:21] he  wrote:  you are
[10:24:25] he  wrote:  just remember how cute i am

[10:24:31] you wrote:  oh you are
[10:24:42] he  wrote:  i forgive you for thinking i’m difficult
[10:24:44] he  wrote:  it’s okay

[10:24:46] you wrote:  LOL
[10:24:50] you wrote:  you are too much


Thursday Thirteen, #55

August 13, 2009

Thirteen Things
MON-MON
Likes About Poly
(aka Poly Pro List)

1. The Personal Journey – I’ve learned so much about myself, how I love, and why I do the things I do because I walked down the poly path.  I truly believe most people go through life never questioning why they do the things they do and whether it makes sense.

2. The People - alternative lifestyles attract people who don’t necessarily play by the rules and who don’t just choose the road most traveled.  Poly also attracts very loving and very open individuals who look at love as a commodity best shared with everyone.  I like that concept. 

3. The Freedom – I need lots of freedom in relationships, and when I’m in the right relationship, I get that.  Freedom to me does not mean doing whatever the hell I want at any cost – but rather the freedom to express myself and be heard and understood by my partners. 

4. Flirting w/o Repercussions:  I’ve always believed I would find other people attractive even if I was madly in love.  Turns out I was right!  With poly, if I meet someone who I find attractive and can safely flirt without pissing off any partner they might have, my partner *supports* my ability to do just that… sometimes he *even* encourages it when he knows I like someone and I’m a little shy to act on it.

5. The Community – We have an active poly group here in Colorado, and I just love, LOVE the fact that we do.  One of the greatest poly organizations is Loving More (based in CO), and the woman who runs it is awesome, as is her partner that lives here in CO with her. 

6. The Online Community – I spend a lot of time online getting to know folks all over the world who are long time poly folk, new to poly, never heard of poly or trying to understand a poly partner.  I learn so much about interactions with people, how to express myself in a better manner, how to offer support and  advice without being judgmental – and I also get all of that in return.  I’m so very thankful for my online friends.

7. Acceptance – at least by people who understand how I feel about live and love.  For so long I felt alone because I could conceptulize how I wanted to love and be loved but the only models I had around me were lifetime monogamy (which seemed very hard to achieve), serial monogamy (which I found unappealing), and singlehood.  I thought I was destined to be a spinster or the crazy old lady with all those cats – until I found polyamory.

8. New Relationship Energy - the coin termed to explain the gushy, romantic, crazy, sexy attraction everyone experiences in the beginning of a new relationship (yes, even monogamists, gays, lesbians, etc).  We all love that first intense period of any new relationship. 

9. The T-Shirts – visit http://shop.cafepress.com/polyamory and search on polyamory.  They are wonderful!

10. The Poly Bloggers – I love a good blog, and I love a great poly blog.  I love it when folks get out there on the net to share their joys and trials all with the hope to help someone else who might be feeling as they do.  I just wish people read it to actually learn, instead of feeding some insatiable need to enjoy other’s misery.  Ah well, one step at a time…

11. Poly Blogging – I love being able to share my own poly stories and poly viewpoints with the group of folk who bother to read my blog.  It’s catharitic, fun, and I love to write so it fulfills that need in me.

12. The Get-Togethers – who loves a good party?  ME!  I DO!

13. My Poly Partner – Even though he was poly before I met him, and even though I’ve learned so much from him about loving honestly and with integrity – I also get to watch as he learns all of those items as well.  I’m also thankful that I get to enjoy watching his growth, all the while experiencing my own personal growth.

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Who’s On First?

August 8, 2009

Actual conversation while driving in downtown Denver:

Me: There’s the Old Spaghetti Factory – that’s where I ate dinner with my nephew last week.

Him: Where is the new one?

Me: (confused) The new what?

Him: The new Spaghetti Factory.

Me: There isn’t one.

Him: (puzzled) They tore it down?

Me: No, there never was one.

Him: Then where did you eat?

Me: (exasperated) At the Old Spaghetti Factory.

(slight pause)

Him: Where is the new one?


Thursday Thirteen, #54

August 6, 2009

thirteen things

mon-mon

just doesn’t get

1. Why people who are turning right onto a multi-lane street must wait until there are no cars traveling in any lane in their direction before turning – even if they have a green arrow – and then they turn into the incorrect lane.

2. Why Niki the bird is so angry at me all the time.

3. Why people smoke… blech.

4. Mean people.

5. Why the more I exercise, the more I want to eat food that isn’t healthy for me.

6. Why women are so slow when the use public restrooms.

7. Why some people refuse to go the speed limit.

8. Anything in the kitchen (according to J)

9. Why my college believes giving an impossible amount of homework makes the class harder thus making the class worthy of a higher level designation.

10. Why inanimate objects are hell bent on pissing me off.

11. Why – no matter how much I run on a regular basis – it is still the hardest thing I do all day.

12. Why J doesn’t understand that birds are loud by their very nature.

13.Why I can never start the lawn mower on the first try.

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Baked, Part II*

August 5, 2009

Actual conversation while baking cinnamon streusel muffins:

Him: Is that streusel stuff supposed to go on top of the muffins?

Me: (busily adding the streusel on top of the muffins while they are baking) Yes.

Him: While they are baking in the oven?

Me: (sighing) No. I forgot to add it to the top before I baked them.

Him: So it was supposed to go on before you put them in the oven?

Me: Yes. And I can’t reach three of the muffins now so they will be streusel-less.

Him: (looking into the oven) Is something burning?

Me: No.

Him: What’s that black burnt spot on the bottom of the oven?

Me: Not sure.

Him: Should you be baking at all?

Me: Probably not.

*Title is in reference to the Baked blog I posted before.


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